June
22nd. 2020.
Upcoming club
meetings:
Monday 6th July – 8pm.
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Subject - This will be another ‘Zoom’
meeting, open to all members. We hope to include at least one short talk
courtesy of Michael in the 40 minutes available as well as bringing members up
to date with any developments.
Messages from the Internet
I have received the following messages from the internet. If anyone is
interested, please e-mail the posters directly. I believe both are genuine but I have no way of knowing for sure.
“You do not know me but just a short note to ask if any of you people
may like to swap British coins for New Zealand
I am not a dealer and I was born in the U.K. 50 PLUS YEARS AGO. hope to hear from you or a friend,
Max McFarland emali snoiwandice@gmail.com”
“Please
forgive this email, but we thought that you and your Society members might like
to be aware the new Edition II of Gunmoney: The Emergency coinage of 1689-91
for the Irish Campaign of James II Edition II by Philip Timmins is now
available to buy.
£40 from bandgcoins.co.uk/”
Annual General Meeting 2020
1 Apologies for absence – This was deemed redundant in the current crisis
2 2019 AGM minutes - Approved proposed- Graham, seconded- James
3 Discussion points raised by members - Interest was expressed in any possible resolution of the Parking problem and the general feeling that everyone is looking forward to the next full meeting.
4 Points raised by the Committee – None
5 As previously mentioned, the current committee is standing on, pending a vote at the next full meeting.
6 Finance – Peter revealed that as shown in the accounts presented with the May newsletter the club remains in good shape financially. In the current year we will take a knock due to the loss of subscriptions but this is slightly offset by not having to pay speakers expenses or the costs of hiring the Church facilities. The income from the auction was down but this is believed to be a side effect of both the pandemic and the parking problem leading to fewer members attending the meeting. A vote of thanks was given to Neil for auditing the accounts.
6 AOB – Appreciation was expressed for the idea of using club funds to provide a subscription ‘furlough’. Over the years there have been many discussions about the uses to which the clubs funds could be put and it was thought that the current situation shows how important it is to have a bank of savings to be able to turn to.
7 With no further points this concludes the formal business of the AGM
There then followed two short displays.
Lock-In Medal Graham
We might feel that we
currently deserve a medal for being “locked-in” for several weeks. It is
unlikely one will ever arrive.
Neither did one arrive for
those incarcerated for much longer periods in prisoner of war camps during the
Second World War.
For my late father, Cyril
Kirby, the position was rectified some forty years after the war had ended when
an ‘unofficial, retrospective’ medal arrived in the post. It was a gift from
his friend Albert Tyler, with whom Cyril had shared Red Cross parcels for two
and a half years in the Sulmona P.O.W. camp, in Italy.
Details of the Medal,
proposed by The National Ex-Prisoners of War Association in the UK, and
available to be purchased by allied ex P.O.W.’s:
Designer: Ian H Stewart CM Retailer: Award Productions Ltd.
Metal: Bright cupro-nickel Size: 36mm
Boxed with ribbon and “ready
to wear”
The accompanying leaflet
states, ‘it indicates the veteran was deprived of freedom and if worn in
conjunction with service medals should give the observer an indication of the
particular hardship endured by the wearer.’
Obverse: A strand of barbed wire which has entrapped a young
bird, symbolic of freedom itself. These elements surmount a globe of the world
indicative of the international parameters of the medal. The wording
“INTERNATIONAL PRISONERS OF WAR” encircles the main design.
Reverse: The haunting and vicious barb of the ever-present
wire is used symbolically to divide the reverse into four elements, each
bearing one of the words in the phrase “INTREPID AGAINST ALL ADVERSITY”
Ribbon: 32mm wide and having a symbolised strand of white barbed
wire 2mm wide placed centrally. This bounded either side by 4mm black bands
representing the despair of the compound. These in turn are edged by two further
white 2mm bands representative of the third and fourth fences of the compound,
outside of these are 7mm bands of green, reminiscent of the fields of home. Finally,
both edges are comprised 2mm red bands symbolic of the burning faith of those
interned.
This story of Cyril’s began as he was driving an army
truck towards a crossroads where a “red cap” military policemen (actually a German fifth columnist) was directing traffic
onto the road to Tobruk and into a trap. The convoy had been targeted as Rommel’s
army needed transport and petrol.
Extracts
from Cyril’s memoirs record: ‘Sulmona was a big camp of concrete huts in
several large compounds with a separate block for the guards. In due course the
Red Cross food parcels began to arrive and these made
all the difference to our lives. If the supply was good, it was one each,
otherwise one between two. The British parcels were in not very stiff cardboard
well tied up with string. The boxes provided fuel for cooking and the string
for many purposes, including a clothesline over our beds. The average parcel
contained a tin of condensed milk, a tin of meat and veg or similar, sugar, tea
or coffee, a small tin of cream cheese or a round packet of ditto, margarine,
jam, another tin of meat or fish, chocolate and variations of the above. A tin
of fifty cigarettes (Woodbines or Gold Flake etc.) came separately.
The
library was built up within the room by pooling any books we brought with us
together with those received via the Red Cross. They were all eagerly read. I
have a list of two hundred and two books read over my time in captivity. I had also brought some hairdressing gear so
I could get my own hair cut and that resulted in me becoming the unofficial
barber.
We
heard that Italy had capitulated and that night a hole was cut in the wire
fence at the rear of the camp and Albert and I and a number of others left the
camp for good and so nearly two and a half years behind the wire ended in the
dark of early evening.’
Seven
weeks of freedom in the hills ended in capture and transfer to German Camps
until being handed over to the Americans at the end of the war. Upon arriving
home, the hit tune being played was, “Don’t fence me in.”
Graham 1.6.20
The Coinless Society?
One of the side effects of
the Covid-19 epidemic will almost certainly be to bring closer a time when
coins and perhaps even cash will no longer be involved in financial transactions.
People have been switching to contactless payment for some years now and the
advent of Covid-19 will accelerate the move.
Mr. Google tells me that
about 100 years ago, £1 would be the equivalent of £100 nowadays, meaning that
a present day penny is worth very little, so the need
for these coins has decreased.
My local Tesco also tells me
that their automatic check outs do not use a full range of available coins for
change, e.g. no 10ps are used.
As a coin collector I shall
miss the excitement of hunting through my change looking for anything out of
the ordinary, it’s a thing I've been doing for about
50 years. Each year I look out for the new arrivals, normally shiny pennies and tuppences first, followed by the 20ps and 50ps,
then 10ps, £1 and £2. Indeed up until 2016 (see below) I had always been able
to find all of the year's coins from change, before the year ended, even if it
meant asking the people on the tills at the Supermarkets for a bit of help!
This is now a thing of the past, the coins above probably represent the last time it
was possible to collect a full set of year coins from change. Indeed, the Royal
Mint records that in 2018 apart from commemoratives (think Beatrix Potter) and
a comparatively small number (130,000,000) of £1 coins, no other coins were issued
for general circulation, so none for me to collect - and even the people on the
Supermarket tills are disappearing at an alarming rate! Oh well, maybe I can
take up train spotting?
John
(James pointed out that one reason
for automatic tills not using all the available denominations is that Euro
currencies have less types than the UK. Harry also showed us a Brexit 50p he
had in change earlier in the year, so maybe I’ll keep
looking a bit longer).
The first of three articles
about Bank of England Tokens by Mick
Parts 2 & 3 will follow
in the July and August newsletters.
Georgian
Bank of England Tokens
Part 1
- 1797 and the Coinage crisis
The
story begins with a question. Why was
there a need for Bank tokens? The answer
is because there was very little silver coinage to be
had. A cursory look at any coin book shows that very little
silver was struck between 1760 and 1816, since the price of silver as a
commodity was more than the coining rate. The official sterling silver coining
rate (set in Elizabethan times) was 62 shillings per troy pound, whereas in the
latter half of the 18th century the average price of sterling silver
was 64.75 shillings per pound. Thus much silver
coinage was either being exported or melted. The reaction to this was that the simple minded Treasury stopped authorising the minting of
silver coin, irrespective of the countries needs.
To
go into the detailed history of the coinage crisis would take too long, but
here is a brief overview of the important factors. Prior to the 18th
Century the price of silver was relatively stable. But with the coming of the
Industrial Revolution there was a significant increase in commerce and trade.
With many more rich people eager to preserve their wealth, commodity
speculation increased, driven by demand, confidence
and greed. But just like today, global worries and economic uncertainties
caused market panics and volatile prices. In such times people resorted to
‘safe bets’ and so the price of bullion rose. Add to this mix the increasing
demands for specie from both Government and Adventurers to finance wars and
overseas interests; it is easy to see why the price of silver went on a roller
coaster trend, mostly upwards
The
solution to the silver coinage problem was obvious. The Treasury could either authorise
an increase in the coinage rate or reduce the fineness. However, the advisors to the Treasury on coinage matters were the
Privy Council and the Committee
on Coin set up in1787 to resolve the diabolical state of regal silver coinage.
But the Committee members were mostly from the gentry who had little
understanding of coinage, commerce and the bullion
market since much of the ruling class lived on credit. In fact
many committee members did even not attend the meetings, where often only the
Chairman was present to conduct business.
Consequently the inept Treasury failed to grasp
the obvious solutions choosing instead to follow the political route and do
nothing. Little wonder then that there was a crisis.
With
virtually no silver coinage available Bills of Exchange issued by local banks
were widely used as the medium of currency. However, because of the impending
conflicts with France and the rising costs of living, there was a loss of faith
in these bills. So the wise exchanged such bills for
‘Notes of the Bank of England’ which were backed by gold. Then in 1797 a series
of military disasters and the looming threat of invasion caused much
apprehension amongst the public. The news of the mini French invasion at Fishguard
turned apprehension into panic. People demanded gold for their Bank notes. But the
Government wanted the gold for war payments & ordered the Bank to circulate
an order forbidding ‘Cash in Payment’ while Parliament sought a solution. To
appease the public the Bank began issuing low value notes, but with many
unfamiliar with paper there was much forgery. By now people had had enough and
there were now demands for the Government to act and provide silver coins
The
real irony in the saga was that there was no lack of silver in London, for London
was a primary centre for trading bullion (be it bar, ingot
or foreign coin). In fact the Bank had large
quantities of 8 Reales and wanted to convert them into circulating currency,
but coining at the coinage rate of 62/- would mean a loss. However, the
advisors and Treasury would not sanction a higher coining rate and were
vehemently opposed to simply sanctioning the issue of 8 Reales because it was a
non sterling foreign coin by heck. Bereft of ideas the Government eventually
agreed to a compromise, namely to apply a countermark
using the stamp of the ‘Goldsmiths Hall’ with the head of George III and permit
the Bank to issue them as tokens.
Goldsmiths Hallmark
Unbelievably
the announcement on the 6th March 1797 set the value at 4/6d in line
with the standard coining rate of 62/-. By the afternoon
the Bank Court realised their mistake as 8 Reales were trading at
4/8d. So 3 days later the Privy Council agreed to a
new value of 4/9d in order to avoid the melting pot. Eventually some 2.3
million coins were countermarked.
So
now there were silver coins in circulation that had a value above the melt
everything was hunky dory. Well not quite, because with the public being
unfamiliar with the 8 Reales ‘Mr Forger’ got to work, exasperated by the fact
that the Goldsmiths stamps were not just confined to the Mint, they were also
in goldsmiths workshops. This led to the following forgeries:
·
False coins with false countermarks
·
False coins with genuine countermarks
·
Genuine coins with false marks
Initially
the Bank believed the proportion of forgeries was relatively small, hence they
were not overly concerned. Then in July the price of silver dropped
and Mr Forger really got to work. He could buy genuine coins below 4/9d, add a
mark (false or real) & make a profit. Many fakes were very
good and hard to detect, but again the Bank was not troubled being
confident they could detect most fakes. I disagree, having struggled at times
to validate some specimens– just look at these two much enlarged marks and see
how similar they are.
Good fake Genuine Mark Fake Mark
To
make matters worse the Bank Governors were advised that some of their own
issues were on fake coins. Clearly the Bank could not tell the public for fear
of panic - but the Bank Governors were cunning. They informed the Government
that they wanted to withdraw their tokens and re-coin them at a new rate of
66/- to prevent melting, knowing full well the inept Committee on Coin were
unlikely to agree. And sure enough Committee did
nothing, thereby enabling the Bank to announce the withdrawal of their tokens.
In making the withdrawal announcement they informed the public to be wary of
accepting tokens with fake marks and by this clever piece of politicking the
Bank got itself out of a potentially damaging situation, namely their issue of
fake dollars
On
the 2nd October 1997, barely 6 months since the issue began, the
Bank called in the tokens, announcing they would not be accepted at the Bank
after 31st October. The Bank would only redeem their tokens in quantities
of 20. This caused much distress amongst the public with less than 20 tokens,
thereby being forced to use unscrupulous profiteering dealers. Ironically the Bank did have trouble detecting good fakes
and agreed to redeem them at the going rate.
Despite
concerns over mounting losses according to their creative accounting the Bank
did not suffer any loss from the issue of countermarked dollars,
since the losses were covered by the 131,000 unredeemed pieces.
Did
the Bank and authorities learn from their mistakes? Well no, as will be explained in part 2.
MM
2020
And Last but not least…
A numismatic quiz from Michael
1 4 S = 1 D……………..
2 2 R = 1 S……………
3 96 HF = 1S…………..
4 1 G = 21 S……………
5 40 S = 1 P……………
6 240 HP = 10 S……….
7 120 G = 2 P………….
8 3 A = 1 S………………
9 25 D = 1 A……………
10 16 QF = 1 P…………
Slang Terms
11 Grand…………………………...
12 Monkey………………………….
13 Pony……………………………..
14 Score……………………………
15 Ton………………………………
16 Half a bar……………………….
17 Lady Godiva……………………..
18 Mother Hen………………………
19 Squid………………………………
20 Niffty………………………………
21 Bag of sand………………………
22 Dirty……………………………….
23 Bobby Moore…………………….
24 Elsie………………………………..
24 Bullseye…………………………..
Past Events
In previous years,
June has been the date for the AGM.
Club Secretary.